NFL offseason 2008 discussion

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  1. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    (I know, a little early, but...)

    So Javon Walker (Den-WR) says he wants out. Probably a pre-emptive 'strike' against the solid rumors that Denver will ask him to take a paycut. So, do you want him on your team?

    On similar front of unhappy players... I'd love to have Chad Johnson come to Denver and 'replace' Walker.
     

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  2. stevew

    stevew unique white person

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    Rod Smith is also done/retiring, isn't he?

    I liked him and Plummer. Now I really don't like the Broncos.

    Philadelphia needs a QB and a coach.
     
  3. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Rod needs surgery, but his body is jacked up, so probably retiring. He should just become a coach with the Broncos. Kubiak went that route and now he's a HC!

    Philly needs to make peace with McNabb cuz he's a good QB and who is good enough that's available.
     
  4. Westy

    Westy the teste

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    I've never liked the egotistical wide receiver types but Chad Johnson is f'in hilarious, a good player to boot.
     
  5. dhmike

    dhmike Turbo Monkey

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    my two cents now , bengals would never let chad johnson go any where, so stop dreaming. mcnabb is out of philly to many teams need a qb he's got some value in the trade market.what is cleveland going to do with 2 good qb's ? i watched quinn's premiere in the nfl and he looked very impresive. the dawg pound wants him at qb not anderson who's done a good job. quinn came in at the end of the 2nd quarter the dawg pound went crazy should of had touchdown but 2 dropped passes in the end zone. then at the start of the 3rd anderson came back in the brown fans started booing him and every bad pass same thing.i think quinn is the future in cleveland.last alex smith [qb of the 49ers] is now a free agent , 49ers have stuck with him but he sucks in my opinon . he is another tim couch great college qb, drafted 1# but then sucks in the pros.
     
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  6. HAB

    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Agree. Most of 'em come across as being egotistical assholes. Chad does too, a bit, but he's funny about it, so it's OK with me.
     
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    splat Nam I am

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    Yup then they get called trouble makers , disruptive , and get traded for a 4th round draft pick , and the next thing you know they are setting records!!!
     
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  8. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    2008 Draft Order
    No. Team
    1 Miami Dolphins
    2 St. Louis Rams
    3 Atlanta Falcons #
    4 Oakland Raiders #
    5 Kansas City Chiefs #
    6 New York Jets
    7 New England Patriots (from 49ers)
    8 Baltimore Ravens
    9 Cincinnati Bengals
    10 New Orleans Saints
    11 Buffalo Bills
    12 Denver Broncos
    13 Carolina Panthers
    14 Chicago Bears
    15 Detroit Lions
    16 Arizona Cardinals
    17 Minnesota Vikings
    18 Houston Texans
    19 Philadelphia Eagles
    20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers *
    21 Washington Redskins *
    22 Dallas Cowboys (from Browns) *
    23 Seattle Seahawks *
    24 Pittsburgh Steelers *
    25 Tennessee Titans *
    26 New York Giants *
    27 San Diego Chargers *
    28 Jacksonville Jaguars *
    29 Green Bay Packers *
    30 Dallas Cowboys *
    31 San Francisco 49ers (from Colts) *
    32 New England Patriots *

    * -- Subject to playoffs
    # -- Subject to coin flip


    New England will probably win the SB this year, package their first two picks to Miami and get McFadden. They're going to be even better next year?
     
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  9. X3pilot

    X3pilot Texans fan - LOL

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    Don't forget the Pats forfeit their first two round picks, right?

    Still, the way they manage the cap and free agency is astounding.

    Texans pick 18th, wow, maybe this would have been the draft coming up to pick a DE?? I'm not a Mario basher, but geez, they need an offense.
     
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  10. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Oh right, but they forfeit only one pick it's 'their' pick, as opposed to San Frans', so they still get the #7 overall :twitch:

    I dunno man, so far, Reggie Bush and none of the QBs have contributed to their teams like Mario has for Houston. They're going to be the next great defense.
     
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    X3pilot Texans fan - LOL

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    oh yeah, but the o line took some major hits this year and I wish we would quit getting tired veteran backs, but yeah, he beat out everyone in his draft class in my book. But hopefully we keep Schaub AND Rosenfelds. If Ron Dayne could stay healthy and Andre stay healthy..hmmmm.
     
  12. HAB

    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    :D Yeah, that did happen recently.
     
  13. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    I was a Bates fan from when he was with Miami, so I was excited to have him come to the Broncos.

    Unfortunately, he proved that he's a one-trick pony that is incapable of adapting. It was obvious from pre-season that this defense was having trouble grasping his scheme and the fact that he ruined the season insisting on it really sucked.

    There's no doubt that if he has the right personnel that he can work wonders, but a good coach needs to be able to adapt and play to the strengths of his players.

    Good riddance.

    In other words, if your team hires him and doesn't already have the two-gap defensive players necessary, well, there goes your season.
     
  14. narlus

    narlus Eastcoast Softcore
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  15. BurlyShirley

    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    ...a bad 3 day run for .Pitsteelers. Both his teams go down in flames in front of a world audience :rofl:

    ...anyway, this offseason, look for the bears to:

    Sign RB Michael Turner from SD Chargers
    Sign Guard Scott Lilja fron Indy
    Re-sign QB Rex Grossman
    Sign DT Tommie Harris to an extension
    Sign KR/WR Devin Hester to an extension
    Trade Brian Griese for a safety
    CUT Muhsin Muhammad

    Let free Agents WR Bernard Berrian and LB Lance Briggs walk.

    Draft OT Ryan Clady from Boise St. in the 1st round
    Draft Safety (insert name here) in the 2nd round
     
  16. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Why? I don't watch the Bears like you do, but shouldn't they go another direction?
     
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    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    No way! Rex is the heart of the team.
     
  18. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Not Urlacher?

    I'll just assume that your post was just a joke?
     
  19. BurlyShirley

    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    Really, Rex is the best QB on the team. No joke. The team rallies behind him when he plays. You can see it on everyone's face when he comes in.
    Griese sucks.
    Kyle Orton is the definition of mediocre
    Rex is a boom or bust player; when he's on, he's as good as they come. He needs a better line because he isnt mobile and a solid running game, cause his deep ball is the best out there.


    Edit: And I should add...who else is going to come in and start? McNabb isnt leaving Philly, D. Anderson is a joke IMO, if you draft a guy, he needs a year to develop. No harm in going w/ a playoff proven QB in Rex.
     
  20. BurlyShirley

    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    Bwaahahaa. Volek is a turd. Rex is ranked the best cause anyone who pays attention knows he is. I shudder to think what happens if Minnesota signs him and he gets to play behind that great line. He'd whip chicago's ass for the next 10 years.
     
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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Oh right, I forgot. As usual, I bow to your analysis.
     
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    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    It's not like I havent seen him play, Steve-o. He was in nashville for a number of years before heading to SD, where he actually hasnt done anything yet. Heard too many stories of his arrogance, attitude, womanizing, drunkenness, etc. to consider him even a good dude, let alone the fact that he hasnt shown much on the field IMO. He fared well on a couple of occasions subbing from McNair, but he loves to throw INTs.
     
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    If that's true, then (in my book) that automatically disqualifies him.
     
  26. Secret Squirrel

    Secret Squirrel There is no Justice!

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    Why would they let Berrian walk?!?!!? If Hester was taller and got worked into the starting rotation for WR's (read: more offensive reps) I might see that....but just letting you're deep threat go to the wolves....?

    1 vet guard and a rookie tackle fixes it all? Aight.....
     
  27. BurlyShirley

    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    Actually, 2 new bodies on the line would make all the difference in the world, as we got a 2nd year guy named Josh Beekman, guard from ND ready to fill in, plus there are other draft picks i didnt account for. We have one "good" tackle in John Tait.
    As for Berrian, he has come out and said "I want top 10 receiver money" and his agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Now, clearly, he is not a top 10 WR and he will get paid, probably by Washington or Oakland. Bears would be stupid to pay him that, with their other concerns. He is a 1 trick pony (Post route) who had the dropsies all year.
     
  28. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    I wish the Broncos need list was as short as the Bears.

    Denver's biggest problem is that by the time the kids get good enough to win the SB, the veterans will be too old to help out.
     
  29. robdamanii

    robdamanii OMG! <3 Tom Brady!

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    Somehow I don't see Turner going to the Bears.
     
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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    why?5
     
  31. Sherpa

    Sherpa Basking in fail.

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    DMac will have a season like Adrian Peterson's. If Peterson played that well coming from a horrible conference like the Big 12, think about what DMac will be able to do coming from a real conference.

    SEC ftw
    DMac ftw

    That is if he can keep his dumbass from any more bar fights
    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3190610
     
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    robdamanii OMG! <3 Tom Brady!

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    Without a line to work behind, Turner's downhill style of running won't get him far. He's a "1 cut and go back" and without a hole to cut into, he's not going anywhere.

    I'd like to see him go to the Giants. Seems like he'd do a great job there, but who knows what Jacobs will do.
     
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    Sherpa Basking in fail.

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    Well, atleast he didn't try and curb stomp someone this time and break his toe. He really is a nice guy, LRs just a rough town sometimes, especially when you mess with his little bro.
     
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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    You explained why he wouldn't put up the numbers you might expect, but not why he wouldn't go there.
     
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    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    ...yeah like I said, the Bears have alot of cap room and Turner is also from the Chicago area. He went to north Illinois, and is the perfect compliment RB to a bruiser like C. Benson.
    The line will get fixed, bet on that.
     
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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Looks like Bill Parcells is stripping the Dallas Cowboys of personnel for Miami Dolphins. He's taken something like four coaches and three front office peeps.

    While the Dolphins don't have the players, it looks like management is solid for the next 10+ years.

    Sorry Potroast! :D


    Should Brett Farve retire? I don't understand the question... do they have an amazing backup QB that they'll lose to free agency? So many teams struggle with the position, so why kick a guy out when he's better than half the league's QBs?


    On the Denver Bronco front... we keep losing coaches. Control has turned to chaos and the question on everyone's mind is which will fall off more over the next 12 months... the US Dollar or the number of wins the Broncos grab.

    Stick a fork 'em.
     
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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    At least they'll always have Mexico.

    Dallas Cowboys star Tony Romo has reportedly dumped Jessica Simpson, who was widely blamed for costing him a shot at the Super Bowl.

    "Tony is now starting to blame her himself," a pal told OK! magazine. "Before dating Jessica, he was Texas' golden boy. Now he's become a joke."

    A few days after the Giants bounced the Cowboys from the playoffs, Romo called the "Dukes of Hazzard" star to tell her their romance was over.

    "He said he thought it was better if they went back to being friends," a pal of hers said.

    A final breaking point came when Romo told Simpson he wouldn't move to L.A. - and she responded there was no way she could leave Tinseltown.

    "It was the moment he realized it wasn't going to work with Jessica in the long term," the pal told OK!.
     
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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Hahahhaah... The Raders are officially the worst team in football...

     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    I wish American pro sports were like euro league soccer- if you suck too much, your team gets demoted to a lesser league. Dolphins? Gone. Raiders? See ya.