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Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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The one and only time I ever taxied an aircraft at ORD I got the ATC equivalent of absolutely screamed at for not pulling ALL THE WAY up to the hold short line, and I was WAY closer than 56 feet. I just can't imagine that this isn't also what's expected at an airport as busy as ATL. You should be far enough forward for the hold short line to not be visible directly underneath the nose of the aircraft.

I'll betcha a sixer that the final report says that both ground traffic controller and the Airbus driver should have both been like, "look at this stupid asshole", but will place most of the blame on the 900 crew.
Yep, and good on that controller at ORD, but in most cases they aren't watching everything that closely or can't even see everything that fine. It's not without precedent:

 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
41,692
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Riding the baggage carousel.
Yep, and good on that controller at ORD, but in most cases they aren't watching everything that closely or can't even see everything that fine. It's not without precedent:

Ground was watching probably because I asked for a progressive taxi and said I was unfamiliar with the airport. Dude was pissed, but he didn't tell me to write down a phone number when it was all over. :rofl:

That 700 was one of ours. It was back in service a couple months later. They rebuilt damn near the entire tail.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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They do, but they are an option. Probably need to get the moon roof and infotainment package to get them.


Key words, "An optional extra". And while I was aware of the few examples that exist (I wrote a paper on them back in school advocating to get them on the crash recorder data), just think about the absolute huge fleets of things like A-320s and B-737s without, world-wide.

Hell, put em in your door plugs...
 

DaveW

Space Monkey
Jul 2, 2001
11,581
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The bunker at parliament
The one and only time I ever taxied an aircraft at ORD I got the ATC equivalent of absolutely screamed at for not pulling ALL THE WAY up to the hold short line, and I was WAY closer than 56 feet. I just can't imagine that this isn't also what's expected at an airport as busy as ATL. You should be far enough forward for the hold short line to not be visible directly underneath the nose of the aircraft.

I'll betcha a sixer that the final report says that both ground traffic controller and the Airbus driver should have both been like, "look at this stupid asshole", but will place most of the blame on the 900 crew.

Friend of yours?

 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
41,692
18,968
Riding the baggage carousel.
That is NOT normal behavior. That guy needs another job.

The art of demanding attention in the air without turning into that guy is a fine one indeed. Some of the most professionally scathing dressing downs I've ever heard on a radio were delivered in a very calm, very deliberate manner without the slightest hint of aggravation and EVERYONE on the frequency knew that the recipient was in professional deep shit.

Give "Kennedy Steve" a google if you want to hear an absolute legend at work
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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Sleazattle
I wouldn't go to Wichita for 100 an hour. Certainly not contract work, and definitely not to get my knees broken by a union machinist. Besides, my last aviation job, was my last aviation job.

I hope the union breaks Boeing.

Boeing strike is local to the PNW.

Textron however...


Clearly nO OnE wAnTs tO wOrK AnYmOr3!11!
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
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pilots should have informed ATC that their ILS system didn't autotune

ATC should have informed pilots that their shit was apparently broken in that they were approaching the wrong runway

at least nothing untoward happened as ATC at least confirmed that there was no traffic conflict on the wrong runway after all