CoVID-19
still a problem...
www.nbcnews.com
Many front-line workers refuse Covid vaccines as distribution rollout struggles
About 50 percent of workers in California’s Riverside County have refused to take the vaccine, along with 60 percent of nursing home staff in Ohio.
What I suspect they're going to find out, is that once there is non-EUA approval by the FDA, employers are going to mandate they get this vaccine.still a problem...
Many front-line workers refuse Covid vaccines as distribution rollout struggles
About 50 percent of workers in California’s Riverside County have refused to take the vaccine, along with 60 percent of nursing home staff in Ohio.
At this point, there is no excuse, IMO, for folks not to get the jab.
still a problem...
Many front-line workers refuse Covid vaccines as distribution rollout struggles
About 50 percent of workers in California’s Riverside County have refused to take the vaccine, along with 60 percent of nursing home staff in Ohio.
this is what I was looking for....testimony from this week....
Yes it is.This is a fascinating read.
The 60-Year-Old Scientific Screwup That Helped Covid Kill
All pandemic long, scientists brawled over how the virus spreads. Droplets! No, aerosols! At the heart of the fight was a teensy error with huge consequences.www.wired.com
We're never going to get out of here, but I do respect their willingness to DIE for their cause (owning the libs...)
apnews.com
A month after every adult in the U.S. became eligible for the vaccine, a distinct geographic pattern has emerged: The highest vaccination rates are concentrated in the Northeast, while the lowest ones are mostly in the South.
#CrosspostDarwinThread
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[Charts/snark via the great orange satan]
GEE, WHAT COULD BE GOING ON HERE?
IT’S A REAL MYSTERY. WE MAY NEVER FIGURE IT OUT.
IT’S ALMOST AS IF THERE’S A PATTERN.
I CAN’T QUITE PUT MY FINGER ON IT…
WHO KNOWS? IT COULD BE ALMOST ANYTHING.
Big gaps in vaccine rates across the US worry health experts
A distinct geographic pattern has emerged in the U.S. drive to vanquish the coronavirus: The highest vaccination rates are concentrated in the Northeast, while the lowest ones are mostly in the South.
apnews.com
A month after every adult in the U.S. became eligible for the vaccine, a distinct geographic pattern has emerged: The highest vaccination rates are concentrated in the Northeast, while the lowest ones are mostly in the South.
#CrosspostDarwinThread
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[Charts/snark via the great orange satan]
UPDATE x2: There's a lot of correlations for "vaccine hesitancy", but one sure seems to stand out.
The AP strokes its chin... A steady crowd of people flowed into the New England Patriots’ stadium for their second dose of the COVID-19 vaccine this week in Massachusetts, which is nearing its goal of vaccinating more than 4 million and plans to close...
www.dailykos.com
GEE, WHAT COULD BE GOING ON HERE?
IT’S A REAL MYSTERY. WE MAY NEVER FIGURE IT OUT.
IT’S ALMOST AS IF THERE’S A PATTERN.
I CAN’T QUITE PUT MY FINGER ON IT…
WHO KNOWS? IT COULD BE ALMOST ANYTHING.
Who, that little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy.
Also, correlation != causation. I'm sure it's purely coincidence.
Also, correlation != causation. I'm sure it's purely coincidence.
Being a Trump voter doesn't cause someone to deny vaccinations, but I can think of a lot of common behaviors that would cause both. Willful ignorance comes to mind.
There is probably also a correlation between southern blacks and non-vaccinations. White American has a rather unfounded lack of trust when it comes to government provided health care. Black America has some pretty good historical reasons to be skeptical.
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The wife's nephew just announced he isn't going to get vaccinated because he doesn't believe in it. He's 23, got a DUI last year and has been living in a bong shed in his folks back yard collecting unemployment ever since.
Tell him you believe his house keys aren't gonna work the next time he visits
His folks paid for his DUI, then built the bong shed when he got laid off last year. Just found out the place he was working is hiring, but he's happy where he is, in the bong shed.
The US still has 500 people dying per dat of what is now an easily preventable disease. Even though those "at risk" have been vaccinated at a higher rate than others, new variants have largely maintained the death rate at about 2%
A ‘frenemy’ of mine posted this (she is off her rocker anti-vax everything)
As vaccines are readily available in the US and they are highly effective in preventing severe cases, and the death rate is 2%, I declare that we have officially entered the Darwinian phase of Covid and I do not feel inclined to convince people to get vaccinated.
Thats 2%, per round of covid.
Anybody has an idea/projection on what are the lifetime odds without a vaccine?
How many times will you get covid, say from age 20 until 80 (if you make it that far)? And what are the cumulative odds of dying for the non-vaccinated?
Thats some hardcore evolutionary shit going down in the next years.
The better question is, how much does long Covid or the aftermath of an infection impact your quality of life?
Keep your racist, anti-chinese propaganda off of here. Changleen has said that this is not true, so believe it!
so, let’s suppose it did ’come from a lab’.
If it wasn’t intentional, how does this change anything?
If it wasn’t intentional, how does this change anything?
there would be a strong case for legal reparations to be paid.
Depends on where you stand on the political spectrum. Either it is a good incentive to stop gain-of-function experiments with potential human pathogens or it is OMG, CHINA HAS TO PAY FOR THIS!!1!!111!!!!
Yeah, like that would go anywhere.
Can’t imagine China saying anything other than ‘oops, my bad’.
But yes, ‘gain of function’ research is a slippery slope, for sure.
Russia never paid Europe reparations for the Chernobyl disaster, so I do not think this will fly.
China probably wouldnt pay shit, but then you´d have all the excuses you need for trade embargos, forfeiture of foreign assets, certain bans on research and cold war 2.0
Trump and his followers would finally have a "good" reason to hate on all asians.
If it was lab born, me thinks this news/confirmation would just play into the hands of the anti-vax reality-free bubble people. I also think to some extent that this is why wet market was played up so much, as it it was "natural" then people would be less hesitant regarding a vaccine. However if lab...then...Dr. Evil must be involved with a Chineese/WHO plot to... Pick one nefarious plot from column A and one from Column B. 
It wouldnt be the US alone.
China has a lot of interests/assets all over the world.
Like 1/4 of its imports are raw materials (mineral ores, copper, etc), and they come from everywhere... and their trade agreements are huge and well negotiated. "Compensation" could create cracks around them.
First step - US should not be financing dangerous experiments abroad if deemed too risky on home soil.
Second - the world needs to better prepare for whatever comes next. This clearly demonstrates that China is not a trusted partner - they engaged in cover ups, misleading the public, silencing the dissent with official policies etc., and did nothing to prevent the virus from spreading from Wuhan to the rest of the world for weeks.
If you don't know what happened, how exactly do you prevent it from happening again? If it was natural, then continuing gain of function research seems not only smart, but necessary. However, if it was a lab leak that was covered up, continuing research in China where the CCP has final say on all inspections and who gets to go where and when during an investigation has some pretty obvious drawbacks.
China's not paying for shit, but there's no way they'll course correct unless it's known that they went off course in the first place. Also, if it did turn out that they covered up the accident all the good will earned by distributing vaccines around the world would evaporate pretty quickly.
China's not paying for shit, but there's no way they'll course correct unless it's known that they went off course in the first place. Also, if it did turn out that they covered up the accident all the good will earned by distributing vaccines around the world would evaporate pretty quickly.
You assume the anti vaxxers haven't already made up their mind on what their "truth" is. The conspiracy definitely has more legs though if they're intentionally obscuring the origin, I'll give them that. If it originated from a lab leak, best to just put it out there rather than hiding it.If it was lab born, me thinks this news/confirmation would just play into the hands of the anti-vax reality-free bubble people. I also think to some extent that this is why wet market was played up so much, as it it was "natural" then people would be less hesitant regarding a vaccine. However if lab...then...Dr. Evil must be involved with a Chineese/WHO plot to... Pick one nefarious plot from column A and one from Column B.
If this was a lab escapement it should be sounding alarm bells around the world about lab safety regulations in addition to pointing out how easily it would be for any po-dunk lab to create a deadly pandemic not to mention weaponizing such a thing. Not only was it dumb for the Trump administration to have stepped down the CDC pandemic team if this was an escapement this kind of thing should be on the radar as a national security risk.
We probably aren't too far away from someone being able to custom tailor a virus that could make certain ethnic groups more susceptible.
We probably aren't too far away from someone being able to custom tailor a virus that could make certain ethnic groups more susceptible.
And it would probably start right here:
www.uofmhealth.org
Ashkenazi Jewish Genetic Panel (AJGP) | University of Michigan Health
Top of the pageAshkenazi Jewish Genetic Panel (AJGP)What Is an Ashkenazi Jewish Genetic Panel (AJGP)?The Ashkenazi Jewish genetic panel is a test to look for certain rare diseases. These diseases occur most often in people of Central and Eastern European (Ashkenazi) Jewish heritage. Most of...
And it would probably start right here:
Ashkenazi Jewish Genetic Panel (AJGP) | University of Michigan Health
Top of the pageAshkenazi Jewish Genetic Panel (AJGP)What Is an Ashkenazi Jewish Genetic Panel (AJGP)?The Ashkenazi Jewish genetic panel is a test to look for certain rare diseases. These diseases occur most often in people of Central and Eastern European (Ashkenazi) Jewish heritage. Most of...
Possible, but any race/region of humans that has been isolated may lack the genetic diversity to be targeted. I can't remember the exact breakdown but people from different regions generate a different number of Antibodies. Africans having the most and I believe in descending order Europeans, Aisians and Native Americans.
It was a while ago and from a history book not necessarily a scientific one so not sure how accurate the data was. It discussed the vulnerability of Native Americans to Europeans diseases and the ability for Africans to fight off tropical diseases. That reasoned why African Slavery really only took hold in the sub and tropical regions of the Americas, survivability.
Most of the information supporting the lab leak hypothesis early on came from the US Intelligence community, they were already viewing it as a national/global security risk. Even without genetically engineering the prefect virus look what it's done to the US, or really the whole Western world.
DARPA's been on it for a while now too https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2017-02-06a
Say what you will about defense spending, MRNA vaccines were worth every penny
DARPA's been on it for a while now too https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2017-02-06a
Say what you will about defense spending, MRNA vaccines were worth every penny
Russia tried to spread dangerous lies about Pfizer vaccine, France suspects
French officials likened the lies to campaigns run by Russia’s Internet Research Agency.
arstechnica.com
Just give me a clone I can infect and extract antibodies from. A spare part now and then would also be nice.
If the lab story is right then the other side of that is the US was funding that research and also know about the poor safety standards. It’s pretty karmic. It does sound plausible but like the chap said, there is no hard evidence at all.
I am not really sure about gain of function experiments, after I read that article I took a brief dip into that, and happy to be corrected but it does seem that we’ve never got anything out of that except honing our abilities to fuck with viruses and the like.