The Official Iron Horse Sunday / DW-Link Tech. & Tuning Section
- Thread starter S.K.C.
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P. 47, #705
I'm Back...
Went on holiday this past week where the ocean was beautiful as well as the ladies... :biggrin:
No, I am not an employee of I.H. however - you could think of me as their "extended family".
I've raced DH with Todd and Travis here at Diablo in New Jersey as well as with some other I.H. employees. They are all a great bunch of guys to hang out and ride with, so that's how I got started in this. I communicate with Mike L., Todd, and some other guys at I.H. as well as dw from time to time when it comes to helping you guys out.I love DH and I like to hear from all of you guys as you share in the knowledge base for the Sunday. The easier it is to find info on setting up your ride properly the more fun you'll have tearing it up on the mountain. :biggrin:
As far as the Aussie distributor goes - I can't really say much about that, but I DO agree with you that you guys need to get better service/support down there.
Olliec - gonna send you a PM to get things sorted out for you.
ha no way bud, the IH dealer in England is useless, an di mean, they did not even know what the new linkage kit was called!!!
ok, im tryin to dial in my new fox dhx 5.0 on my 2007 sunday frame, i started with the tips from the first page, but i want some more tips to get in exactly dialed for my weight im about 155, i like it really plush feelin, can i get some recommendations for psi, and other settings thanks.
i'm the same weight. 110-130psi, bottom out turned all the way in, no pro-pedal, no pre-load, 300# spring
hey guys, Ive posted a few comments about my shock before but heres the deal now. Im just startin to get used to my sunday and im likin it alot now. Im just wondering because I am a very light rider at 120 pounds and im running a 250 lb spring. It feels right but I am also running minimum air pressure and it can feel a bit sluggish at times. Would increasing my air pressure to 110 like reccomended make it that much stiffer? or does the spring determine most of the stiffness?
DHX or 5th? What year sunday?
By sluggish, do you mean it won't rebound fast enough, or does it feel like it just sucks the life out of all your movements?
Since your so light, and need such a soft spring, there is often too much rebound damping for said spring weight. Lightening the rebound circuit is difficult, but that also depends on your shock.
Air pressure generally affects progressiveness, and indirectly affects compression and spring weight. So, having more air primarily makes it ramp up faster, but will also make it slightly stiffer.
If by "sluggish" you mean it's wallowing under rider input, more psi or a hair more compression could help.
It´s absolutely the same problem I have with my Elite!
This really sucks!
I also have sent the frame dates to S.K.C., but nothing has happened so far!
Have you found your serial number on the BB, or couldn´t you figure it out?
Is there anyone else who has fractured Sunday frame? I have owned Sunday frame year and three months now. Couple of days ago I noticed fractures shown in a picture. Link to the picture -> http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p8210590vf7.jpg
There is fractures both sides of the frame. Fracture shown in a picture is longer one.
F***
. There has been enough problems with this sh** without these fractures. Linkage, shock etc.
Now it looks like that Iron Horses customer service is not nearly in the same level as what Turner has.
There is a one good thing. Now I know that this is my first and last Iron Horse.
There is fractures both sides of the frame. Fracture shown in a picture is longer one.
F***
. There has been enough problems with this sh** without these fractures. Linkage, shock etc. Now it looks like that Iron Horses customer service is not nearly in the same level as what Turner has.
There is a one good thing. Now I know that this is my first and last Iron Horse.
Guys - take it easy now.
Retro - I emailed all of your info to Mike L. at Iron Horse, - I'll keep on top of him to make sure you get taken care of and get a replacement frame. He will get back to you soon.
Terppa - could you give me your frame serial number?
I'll send it along to Mike and see if they can get you a replacement frame as well.
Retro - I emailed all of your info to Mike L. at Iron Horse, - I'll keep on top of him to make sure you get taken care of and get a replacement frame. He will get back to you soon.
Terppa - could you give me your frame serial number?
I'll send it along to Mike and see if they can get you a replacement frame as well.
Guys - take it easy now.
Retro - I emailed all of your info to Mike L. at Iron Horse, - I'll keep on top of him to make sure you get taken care of and get a replacement frame. He will get back to you soon.
"Easy like a Sunday morning !"
Nice info to hear!!!
Hope to hear some news soon!
Thank you and Mike as well for your efforts!
REALLY?
Hmmm... Let me talk with the guys and see who's going this year.
Hmmm... Let me talk with the guys and see who's going this year.
Pity you didn't ask for internet hearsay, you would have gotten plenty of that!
Anyway - personal experience, I've been running an 07 DHX5 Air in an 07 sunday for a few months now and it has been nothing short of brilliant. Have done countless runs on some of the rockier/looser tracks here and it has handled it all perfectly. No dramas at all in the reliability department either, as long as you regrease/oil the air sleeve at the recommended intervals (fox provide instructions) it shouldn't give you any trouble in the long term.
Personally I think the sunday is probably the best suited frame for the shock - nice low leverage ratio means less pressure / less heat for a given body weight.
It really depends on rider weight - Udi, I'm guessing you're probably under 90 kilos, because Todd ran his Sunday with the DHX Air 5.0 for a few DH runs last year at Diablo and the thing built up so much heat you couldn't even touch the shock body. He also said that the performance wasn't all theat great either - lacking mid-stroke performance - probably due to the overheating.
Keep in mind that Tod is in the neighborhood of about 200 lbs. or 90 kilos...
If you weigh between 55 and 75 kilos, I would say that you would be fine on the DHX Air and have a similar experience to Udi's.
Keep in mind that Tod is in the neighborhood of about 200 lbs. or 90 kilos...
If you weigh between 55 and 75 kilos, I would say that you would be fine on the DHX Air and have a similar experience to Udi's.
Any info about this so far?
Still awaiting a repsonse... I'll give a call to the home office tomorrow morning and get back to you ASAP soon after.
Let me check with Mike L., and I'll get back to you tomorrow...
Hey,
Does anyone know if Iron Horse have the 08 Sunday stickers for sale?
I'm thinking of coloring my sunday.
Before i do, Does anyone want the Gold sunday that Duncan Riffle used at last years world?
Cheers
Does anyone know if Iron Horse have the 08 Sunday stickers for sale?
I'm thinking of coloring my sunday.
Before i do, Does anyone want the Gold sunday that Duncan Riffle used at last years world?
Cheers
for 1.5" headset removal, I wouldn't use anything but this:
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=50&item=RT%2D2#
Your local shop should have one.
As far as extra 08' sticker go - they should be available in 2 or 3 months. (my best guess) Iron Horse usually has some left over from production.
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=50&item=RT%2D2#
Your local shop should have one.
As far as extra 08' sticker go - they should be available in 2 or 3 months. (my best guess) Iron Horse usually has some left over from production.
Just came back from Eurobike with some news for the 08´Sundays you won´t find on the updated homepage!
First of all: all complete-bikes and frame-kits will be available something between oct/nov this year! Hope so!
Complete-bikes are all made in taiwan and there is nothing new except from colours and graphics!
There will only be two frame-kits this year and they will be made in U.S.A.!
One in white with green graphics and a black lower link, and a black one with white graphics and a green lower link!
And they will be specd with a DHX 5.0 and come with e.13 reducer cups and a orbit head-set!
All these informations are supplied without liability.
For pics check the new homepage!
First of all: all complete-bikes and frame-kits will be available something between oct/nov this year! Hope so!
Complete-bikes are all made in taiwan and there is nothing new except from colours and graphics!
There will only be two frame-kits this year and they will be made in U.S.A.!
One in white with green graphics and a black lower link, and a black one with white graphics and a green lower link!
And they will be specd with a DHX 5.0 and come with e.13 reducer cups and a orbit head-set!
All these informations are supplied without liability.
For pics check the new homepage!
hey guys I have a big problem. So I was up at northstar last weekend and as usual it beat the hell out of my bike. As I was riding my derailer hanger came loose and then I hit it on a rock. It knocked the bolt sideways and stripped the threads inside the frame. So know im with one hanger bolt that comes loose every half of a run for some reason and a stripped other one. Im not so sure about tapping it because it would void the warrenty right? If you could please help me that would be great thanks!
Heli-Coil is your best bet.
Heli-Coil is your best bet.
how does that work?
how does that work?
I'm assuming you have the original 06' Linkage correct?
All you need to do is put some blue threadlock on the screws that thread into the pin axle that goes through the shock eyelet.
The "loose" feeling is probably due to the original hardware that came with the shock. After general wear and tear, the bushings will get worn out and need to be replaced.
A good upgrade is a heavy duty kit like this that replaces the 2 bushings with one solid piece:
Standard Kit:
Heavy Duty:
Heavy Duty Assembled:
A good place to get this is either TFTuned in the U.K.:
http://www.tftunedshox.com/mount_kits.htm
OR from PUSH Industries here in the states:
http://www.pushindustries.com/
All you need to do is put some blue threadlock on the screws that thread into the pin axle that goes through the shock eyelet.
The "loose" feeling is probably due to the original hardware that came with the shock. After general wear and tear, the bushings will get worn out and need to be replaced.
A good upgrade is a heavy duty kit like this that replaces the 2 bushings with one solid piece:
Standard Kit:
Heavy Duty:
Heavy Duty Assembled:
A good place to get this is either TFTuned in the U.K.:
http://www.tftunedshox.com/mount_kits.htm
OR from PUSH Industries here in the states:
http://www.pushindustries.com/
Well... that question can cover a LOT of ground...
What's your budget?
What's your budget?
Sory to ask this cos' its probably been asked a million times in this thread.
So just got an 07 sunday, havent finished building it yet but im guessing the stock dhx/300lbs spring will be too sitff for me so...
what spring is reccomended for a 145lbs(kitted) rider? i tend to prefer a firmer feel over a wallowy feel, not such a plow rider however i think that with the dw link that It may not proform will with a stiffer spring than reccomended, so what do I need?
So just got an 07 sunday, havent finished building it yet but im guessing the stock dhx/300lbs spring will be too sitff for me so...
what spring is reccomended for a 145lbs(kitted) rider? i tend to prefer a firmer feel over a wallowy feel, not such a plow rider however i think that with the dw link that It may not proform will with a stiffer spring than reccomended, so what do I need?
http://www.descent-world.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&Itemid=82&task=view&id=696
Nice review of the linkage upgrade for those who are thinking about it.
Nice review of the linkage upgrade for those who are thinking about it.
it comes stock with a 300lbs, so i recon its 275 or 250 for my weight, i have a 275 5th but the fox strock is 3.25 and the 5th is 3.00 also from where im sitting the 5th spring looks a fair bit bigger in OD to me so i dunno if itll clear everything
Kav - Timmy at TFTuned would know exactly what kind of bushings you need - so while you're getting you're shock tuned, (TFTuned knows how to do the Sunday/DW-Link tune) he can take care of the bushings for you as well.
Xemini - could you be more specific? What is happening exactly?