That’s a Giant AC with a squiggly front end.Huh, Ventana is still around. Seems as though they didn't drink their milk and is suffering from osteoporosis.
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That’s a Giant AC with a squiggly front end.Huh, Ventana is still around. Seems as though they didn't drink their milk and is suffering from osteoporosis.
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The head tube on this one had gussets on the gussets.If you got ahold of one of the gussetted discos those things were the shit. The earlier ones ovalized headtubes and would develop cracks but those last gen ones (the heat treated versions) had longer shocks/lower leverage ratios, a progressive leverage ratio that bike designers just recently realized they need, and they really were pretty light for a dh frame.
A friend of mine still has one that was built up with a flipped link to use as a short travel 4x racer that he keeps in his garage. I lust.
following the wormhole of his website last night he puts on races in new mexico...BCD.... Man. He was so far ahead of us all.
That one with an EBB and discs would be the ultimate winter single speed bike.That's the elastomer one? If so, yeah, that's the one I'm kinda sorta but not really but still would looking for.
headshock: nice touch
Did you see the thread I had on this a few weeks ago for my Sovereign?You actually got a steelset out?
I tried once on a dirtjumper I had. I was defeated
All of the corsairs were on my list at some point. Corsair Crown, Maelstrom...those were awesome bikes with design ahead of their time, and then apparently the shittiest manufacturing and support everadd the corsair konig to the list of bikes i thought looked cool but am glad i never got...
I assembled one of the very last Armageddons that Jan built in what I'd call Karpiel 1.0, circa 2003-4ish good god that thing was a POS!I had a Karpiel Disco Volante on order along with an Intense M1 back in 2002. I sure am happy that Intense was able to fill that order first.
I did. And for the time it was fabruhlous!Speaking of bullets, always wanted an SC Bullet, glad I never owned one of them either.
I assembled one of the very last Armageddons that Jan built in what I'd call Karpiel 1.0, circa 2003-4ish good god that thing was a POS!
It was ordered around '02 but took forever to get, you dodged a serious bullet.
Speaking of bullets, always wanted an SC Bullet, glad I never owned one of them either.
No wayThe head tube on this one had gussets on the gussets.
But with a shock, that bitch was like 20lbs before the Steelset.
I was with you until you said bulletArmageddons
good god that thing was a POS!
It was ordered around '02 but took forever to get, you dodged a serious bullet.
Speaking of bullets, always wanted an SC Bullet, glad I never owned one of them either.
Hey now, we were all young and stupid at one point, it's only now that I'm old and stupid that I realize a Bullet with a Shiver, purple Hayes mags, and maybe a Mr Dirt chainguide would have been a very bad life-choice. Howver young Max thought that would have been the shit!I was with you until you said bullet
The Santa Cruz online bike configuration tool wasted a lot of time for me around 1999.I was with you until you said bullet
I was, sort of, I guess. I have had many hucktastic rides and currently sport a 42# RM7 "FR" so technically not DHNo way
Jan's shop was about 30 minutes from here and this place was saturated with those frames. I had two of them. Those discos were definitely not 20lbs.
I transferred all my parts over from one to an 03 turner dhr (15-16lbs) and it ended up being heavier.
dumb question but are you a dh'er? Like have held a lot of dh frames (feel free to flip out on me if so)
The square tube DHR was a tankI was, sort of, I guess. I have had many hucktastic rides and currently sport a 42# RM7 "FR" so technically not DH
I would swear the DHR would be lighter, but I only saw a couple of those. I hadn't weighed the Disco, it just seemed solid. I had just about everything pass through the powder shop. From the fist full of Endless Lifetimes to a one off Foes Fly they sent me raw to shoot for a rider here. Hell, I shot at least 2 of everything Mountain Cycle made including 3 custom Rubmles that were displayed at the show before they went tits up.
I got to see everything nekkid, too. Only Diamond Back had filler on frames to hide stuff.
Yeah, discoV was one of the lightest “real” DH frames.No way
Jan's shop was about 30 minutes from here and this place was saturated with those frames. I had two of them. Those discos were definitely not 20lbs.
I transferred all my parts over from one to an 03 turner dhr (15-16lbs) and it ended up being heavier.
dumb question but are you a dh'er? Like have held a lot of dh frames (feel free to flip out on me if so)
I think I did one square one round tube. Man, it's been a while. I think it was a monkeys DHR that was one of the first we did.
For clarity the bike rode great, but the poor guy who bought it got jerked around by Jan for like 2 years, and had all but written off the money (paid in full up front) when a package from Poland showed up. He brought it to us to build, and that's where the fun began.I never got along with the Armageddon I had, mostly just because I listened to people and bought too small a size. But in shorter travel (9") with both cams set to slack, they worked pretty well. Pieces of shit I wouldn't call them, they were always well made....until he ran out of money and shipped out a few unheat treated ones.......
The disco was a legit fast bike though. That last gen that jimmy painted was the best bike that ever came out of that wacko's shop.
bullets were some of the worst bikes I ever rode though...
My Bullit was pretty bad ass. The fork was the best, but everyone will laugh at me.My fascination with santa cruz single pivots ended as soon as I rode a few
For clarity the bike rode great, but the poor guy who bought it got jerked around by Jan for like 2 years, and had all but written off the money (paid in full up front) when a package from Poland showed up. He brought it to us to build, and that's where the fun began.
Weld puddle in the BB threads on one side, neither side faced. Headtube had zero post-weld prep, seat-tube was "D" shaped, the list went on and on. We finally got it together after many hours of fucking with it, owner of the shop hooked it up and only charged the owner normal bike build price instead of hourly because he felt bad.
Poor guy finally got his dream bike and couldn't love it because it was such a goddamn headache, but at least I got a couple laps on it at Bear.
How dare you blasphemy the Bullet!
Im talkin twin tube, son!
What was your favorite part, the pedal kickback that would throw your hip out of socket or constantly riding at the bottom of the travel with the regressive leverage curve?My Bullit was pretty bad ass.
Sometimes I wish. After what happened with @MikeD RFX, things went off the rails, then Rob died (brain aneurysm). It was a crazy time, the Foes was the last piece I did and it almost didn't happen.You still do powdercoating? If so, I'll send you some biz
He was onto something. That bike rode really great.
Hawt. IRC Kujos too, those were dope.
O-R-A-N-G-EThe Santa Cruz online bike configuration tool wasted a lot of time for me around 1999.
Rented a Heckler while in Colorado away from my Trek 6000 (with sun rhyno lites and riser bars...occasionally bar ends...) and thought it was the BEST THING EVER.
Used to want the orange-ano Superlight. And/or the Heckler in bare ball-burnished AL front triangle with the swingarm in safety orange. Considered Bullit with the same.
And I've still never owned an orange bike. (Wait, no! I had an OG Surly Instigator in orange powder, as they all were, and put a Marzo Jr T up front. Ovalized the headtube.)
It was a great bike that was well above my skillset, but it was damn fun. Marshall came out west for Sea Otter and I got to see what that bike could really do with a proper rider.Hawt. IRC Kujos too, those were dope.
man, a superheros-style super 8 plus monster T was high up on the list for a while. Not sad I didn't end up with one
Someone in my neighborhood still rides around on a Superlight. Light blue or silver.Used to want the orange-ano Superlight. And/or the Heckler in bare ball-burnished AL front triangle with the swingarm in safety orange. Considered Bullit with the same.
The M1 is still one of the best bikes I ever rode, I ended up getting another one in 2003. I switched from a Shiver to a Boxxer in 2003 and that made a big difference in the ride of the bike.he didnt go full batshit murder mode until like 2004.
You actually would have ended up with a better riding and more durable bike had you gotten the disco in 2002