Watch out for that beaver activity.I would like to drive this some day in the Land Cruiser:
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Body shop inspection caught one small scratch (likely will buff out) on bumper cover. I offered $100 as a concession.
$44,900 at 16,072 miles, pending his credit union generating an electronic bill of sale.
I’ll calculate out a final price per month in a bit.
Edit: $627/mo including tax on initial purchase and upgrades, along with a limited accounting for the time value of the tax credit money bolus.
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Two towing anecdotes, to continue the theme:
1) Relatives on my wife’s side of the family tow a Jayco X213 with a 2017 F-150 EcoBoost, crew cab presumably long bed 4x4.
Trailer is 4,545 lbs dry, 450 lb hitch weight, probably close to its 5,500 GVWR and thus 550 lbs typically.
Tow vehicle payload is about 1,551 to 1,817 minus options in Ford’s “with 150 lb passenger in each seating position” presentation, so 750 lbs more as a raw figure?
Tow rating is 10,700-11,700 depending on options.
Verdict: this seems very sane. They used to tow it with a supercharged Tacoma and say the F-150 is much better, fwiw.
2) A neighbor down the street tows a Mantis trailer:
taxaoutdoors.com
2,882 lbs dry, 3,970 lbs gross, 440 lbs tongue weight unladen so 606 at max.
First they towed this with a VW Atlas but have since replaced it with a Land Rover LR4.
Atlas: 1,396 to 1,495 lbs payload, 5,000 towing.
LR4: 1,488 lbs payload, 7,716 lbs towing.
Interesting that they felt the Atlas wasn’t up to snuff. I wonder if they were using a brake controller…
1) Relatives on my wife’s side of the family tow a Jayco X213 with a 2017 F-150 EcoBoost, crew cab presumably long bed 4x4.
Trailer is 4,545 lbs dry, 450 lb hitch weight, probably close to its 5,500 GVWR and thus 550 lbs typically.
Tow vehicle payload is about 1,551 to 1,817 minus options in Ford’s “with 150 lb passenger in each seating position” presentation, so 750 lbs more as a raw figure?
Tow rating is 10,700-11,700 depending on options.
Verdict: this seems very sane. They used to tow it with a supercharged Tacoma and say the F-150 is much better, fwiw.
2) A neighbor down the street tows a Mantis trailer:
TAXA Mantis Trailer | Pop-Up Roof | Sleeps 4 Adults
Our largest travel habitat for camping, the Mantis camper, comes with a kitchen, bathroom, and pop-up roof. Store it in your garage. See it in person today!
taxaoutdoors.com
2,882 lbs dry, 3,970 lbs gross, 440 lbs tongue weight unladen so 606 at max.
First they towed this with a VW Atlas but have since replaced it with a Land Rover LR4.
Atlas: 1,396 to 1,495 lbs payload, 5,000 towing.
LR4: 1,488 lbs payload, 7,716 lbs towing.
Interesting that they felt the Atlas wasn’t up to snuff. I wonder if they were using a brake controller…
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The Atlas was only a year old, max 2. LR4 isn’t a current model so likely no warranty!
His was a Range Rover, though. Still suspect but not 100% applicability of results.Well they clearly don't take notes from Doug Demuro.
Mantis's's's are pretty nice inside, we glanced inside them when we were looking at the smaller model.Two towing anecdotes, to continue the theme:
1) Relatives on my wife’s side of the family tow a Jayco X213 with a 2017 F-150 EcoBoost, crew cab presumably long bed 4x4.
Trailer is 4,545 lbs dry, 450 lb hitch weight, probably close to its 5,500 GVWR and thus 550 lbs typically.
Tow vehicle payload is about 1,551 to 1,817 minus options in Ford’s “with 150 lb passenger in each seating position” presentation, so 750 lbs more as a raw figure?
Tow rating is 10,700-11,700 depending on options.
Verdict: this seems very sane. They used to tow it with a supercharged Tacoma and say the F-150 is much better, fwiw.
2) A neighbor down the street rows a Mantis trailer:
TAXA Mantis Trailer | Pop-Up Roof | Sleeps 4 Adults
Our largest travel habitat for camping, the Mantis camper, comes with a kitchen, bathroom, and pop-up roof. Store it in your garage. See it in person today!
2,882 lbs dry, 3,970 lbs gross, 440 lbs tongue weight unladen so 606 at max.
First they towed this with a VW Atlas but have since replaced it with a Land Rover LR4.
Atlas: 1,396 to 1,495 lbs payload, 5,000 towing.
LR4: 1,488 lbs payload, 7,716 lbs towing.
Interesting that they felt the Atlas wasn’t up to snuff. I wonder if they were using a brake controller…
I spent some time perusing the Small Travel Trailers for rent page at the same outfit from which we are renting the 30’ 6” behemoth:
Denver Small Travel Trailer Rentals - Colorado Camper Rental
www.coloradocamperrental.com
It looks like there are actually multiple very promising looking options in the 20-24’, 3100-3500 lbs unladen range that’d offer up a queen bed, bunks, and a dinette convertible to a bed.
That’d work come next summer or so, when Baby Aya is big and trustworthy enough for a real bed and goes to sleep at a similar time to the big kids. An everyone-in-one-area layout wouldn’t fly with the kids’ current ages.
2021, but the Semi is supposed to ship then as well, FSD actually live up to its name some day, etc.
Elon Time is very flexible. Recall the claimed 2017 cross country drive without driver input.
Elon Musk: Fully autonomous Tesla will drive across the country by the end of 2017
Earlier this year, Musk said he expected a Tesla to be able to drive itself across the country by 2018. But from the sound of it, Tesla is ahead of schedule.
www.businessinsider.com
Even if we love the Trailer Life the likelihood of a Cybertruck is declining, as a reasonable laden range would require the $70k tri-motor one.
I don’t think I have the appetite for that degree of depreciation implicit in that price at this point, and we can either rent more reasonable weight trailers and use the Land Cruiser, or rent 1-ton trucks via Enterprise Truck Rental as planned this year.
I’m at Lampert Hitch now, awaiting said installation. 7 pin receptacle also will be replaced as its cover is cracked and nearly all gone, and I read that that’s what holds the plug in!
It’s quite pleasant waiting outside, maskless, vs sitting in a spaced out waiting room, trying not to inhale teh ronas.
3 young kids = probably much less camping that you might like.
spend the money on vacation rentals with comfort and conveniences.
spend the money on vacation rentals with comfort and conveniences.
It’s the dream of freedom that’s attractive.
Yo dawg, I heard you like rear axles…
Also spotted coming home from Lampert was a Frito-Lay truck with its custom 57’ trailer with low floor and 19.5” wheels, like a moving trailer, but for chips.
Edit: controller installed. 7 pin receptacle also replaced. Lampert was quick! Which makes sense since the harness was plug and play, but I’m entirely fine with paying an hour of shop labor to do that job.
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You still talk to these nerds?
As I always say (or rather, never say) you haven't really been riding if you aren't muddy and bloody when you come back.
btw: Toshi, I rode the bike to Mailboxes, Etc. The brakes work great. Also, the "go to first unread" was working for me. hmmm....
Ari is Professor-ing it up at UMich, has two kids, and doesn’t ride afaik.
Keith is tech-ing it up in Silicon Valley, has a Vanagon Westy, and most definitely still rides.
So we interact at a distance, but like most undergrad era people are separated by life circumstance and geography.
Keith is tech-ing it up in Silicon Valley, has a Vanagon Westy, and most definitely still rides.
So we interact at a distance, but like most undergrad era people are separated by life circumstance and geography.
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My friends from undergrad have been my closest and longest running friends. We tend to a good job of crossing paths. Pretty close to several of my friends from grad school, and strangely also with their parents to whom I closer in age.
I don’t really interact regularly with anyone outside my immediate family, for better or worse, at least as defined by regular calls or in person visits. I have one or two old friends that I’ll call maybe once a year (or every other year) to have an hour-long chat.My friends from undergrad have been my closest and longest running friends. We tend to a good job of crossing paths. Pretty close to several of my friends from grad school, and strangely also with their parents to whom I closer in age.
I can only agree but he seems very determined. We are 4 and I only had to fill up the Volvo half way for a two week trip and I could comfortably do 100 mph all the way through Germany. There would have been room for a bike inside the car too.
If you want some real load capacity what you need is this here 6 wheel Corolla
It is just around the corner and for sale. I can get the phone number if you are interested. I am going to assume it is 5th wheel capable.
Clearly some kind of child abuse is going on
Btw looks like the fridge is trying to escape or are you measuring it for size so you can bring in in the trailer too.
Ain’t nobody got time for “counter depth” small fridges.Clearly some kind of child abuse is going on
Btw looks like the fridge is trying to escape or are you measuring it for size so you can bring in in the trailer too.
We have another (garage environment rated, Energy Star) fridge/freezer in the garage, and another small dedicated freezer next to it. The latter is redundant now that we aren’t storing breast milk.
lol you should see what Euro size fridges - portion control!
Another towing case study, of @junkyard ‘s F-250 (Crew Cab, long bed, Power Stroke) and what I’m guessing is the configuration of his Airstream.
Sources:
www.airstream.com
F-250 as outfitted in XL-level specs, assuming Trailer Tow package, noting the Platinum weighs an unspecified amount extra (against the same GVWR) due to its extra content:
176” wheelbase
7,538 lb curb weight
10,800 lb GVWR
6,340 lb rear GAWR
3,040 lb listed payload, even though that’s not what simple math yields, go figure
likely 25,700 lb GCWR
17,500 lb bumper pull tow rating
Trailer, assuming 25FB floorplan:
25’ 11” length
6,074 lb base weight, 7,300 lb max
882 lb hitch weight at base weight, so 1,060 lb at max weight at that ratio
So the headroom is, roughly:
3,040 base payload
200? For Platinum options
1,060 for the hitch weight
100? For the rack
thus 1,680 for all remaining gear, people, stuff. He says F-350 next time fwiw:
ridemonkey.bikemag.com
Thank you for attending my TED talk
Sources:
Specifications | Globetrotter | Travel Trailers | Airstream
Check out the full list of specifications for every one of the Globetrotter's floorplans and compare them side by side.
www.airstream.com
F-250 as outfitted in XL-level specs, assuming Trailer Tow package, noting the Platinum weighs an unspecified amount extra (against the same GVWR) due to its extra content:
176” wheelbase
7,538 lb curb weight
10,800 lb GVWR
6,340 lb rear GAWR
3,040 lb listed payload, even though that’s not what simple math yields, go figure
likely 25,700 lb GCWR
17,500 lb bumper pull tow rating
Trailer, assuming 25FB floorplan:
25’ 11” length
6,074 lb base weight, 7,300 lb max
882 lb hitch weight at base weight, so 1,060 lb at max weight at that ratio
So the headroom is, roughly:
3,040 base payload
200? For Platinum options
1,060 for the hitch weight
100? For the rack
thus 1,680 for all remaining gear, people, stuff. He says F-350 next time fwiw:
Campers
Thats right. Platinum model cause I’m fancy. hell my Lariat Trim F350 has more stuff in it that I will never use I can't imagine buying Platinum. I am partial to our rigs heated and cooled Leather seats though.
ridemonkey.bikemag.com
Thank you for attending my TED talk
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Another cool Canadian variant:
https://www.truckinginfo.com/158874/super-cube-rig-for-walmart-canada-might-raise-some-issues
Ontario special. 60.5' low floor trailer, 75.5' overall length with cab over engine, dromedary box on the long tractor.
https://www.truckinginfo.com/158874/super-cube-rig-for-walmart-canada-might-raise-some-issues
Ontario special. 60.5' low floor trailer, 75.5' overall length with cab over engine, dromedary box on the long tractor.
A Fully Loaded 2021 Ford F-150 Limited Will Cost More Than $80,000
That's a good amount more than the F-150’s $30,635 base price.
www.thedrive.com
News of interest to @SkaredShtles for two reasons:
1) perhaps approximating the amount he's dumping on tuition for 2/3 kids this year
2) because F-150
Their ending jab is nice as well:
